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Sorry Paul- but you asked "what 'features' do you think that MCM2 had 'straight out of the box' that MVA didn't have?"

Don't take it personnal, I'm only stating facts here.

To counter your point by point dismissal of my feature list llet me respond;

8 players online versus 6 in MVA wow...big deal! Everybody wanted more riders not less

In game graphic detail  control I never used that in MCM2 and don't miss it in MVA
A lot of people have trouble running MVA and anyway to get more FPS would be appreciated by people with lesser computers than we have, just read some of the posts of people getting 10-15 FPS - don't they matter?

Eco collision on and off I don't see the point in this...how is running THROUGH a tree fun or realistic?
  It was used by people in stunt & baja tracks....

Player collision- multiplayer on and off Again...I don't see the point in this...what's the fun of racing with your buddies online if you can't take each other out?
If you read the posts the collision is wack and people want the choice to turn it off.

True force feedback support not the buzz your gamepad bullcrap that doesn't even work in MVA
Hmmm...must be your controller...it works for me on my new and my old gamepads
For most people it doesn't work and it doesn't work like real force feedback games it work like a console - buzz-buzz

Controller support that worked  I've had zero problems with any of my controllers working in the game
...again, must be your controller
I've had no controller problems you assume I'm talking about myself - read all the posts of people that do have problems...

A menu system that remembered your settings and didn't piss you off everytime you tried to load a track for a quick race.
That's probably another game killer for a lot of people the UI is just plain stupid.
This is definately a problem...but again...I never said MVA was perfect, but MCM2 sure as hell wasn't either
There really isn't any comparison between the two, no MCM2 wasn't perfect but compared to MVA it was.

FPS meter built in to radar
FPS meter built in to radar this was NOT built-in...it was a reg file update...did NOT ship with the game (I don't know where it came from actually)
There was no reg file update to make the fps work that was MCM1


The most important issue- for a lot of us:
Played at over the eye gouging 30 FPS  - played as fast as the computer you had and if you wanted more FPS you could dial down the detail-in game- for racing

Once again...I've never had a single problem with this...I've got a badass pc (now and before I came to the UK) and an LCD screen and not the best eyes these days and I've never noticed a problem with the fps cap like you and some of the rest have. I'm beginning to wonder if you guys would notice if nobody had ever figured it out or told you about it! lol
That remark is insulting but whatever, if you can't tell the difference between 30 FPS and 60 FPS - good for you!

Again you asked : "what 'features' do you think that MCM2 had 'straight out of the box' that MVA didn't have?""

Can't somebody answer this question? or should they just agree

Judging by your replies to my list I hit a nerve -sorry but I still will state the facts as I see them and so will you-  I do see you you agreed to some of what I said so lets leave it at that.

Problems are coming from people who don't know what they are doing with their pc's.
They can't update their machine and when they must find the good settings with their router or others hardwares, it's a big alert and they stop all.
Problems are coming from people who has downloaded the game, cd keys problem...
Problems are coming from people who are using skins and they are killing the poor Gamespy interface.
I'm glad to know some of you stay happy with the very old MCM2 game, but why are you going to Central so ?
MVA is a way better, only with the next points, I'm really happy :
* moving bales
* mud on bike and rider
* rain
* water splash, friction map (it was really gay in mcm2), sunflares, ...
* physics
* sounds with vegetation (some more sounds will come soon)
* time recorder (very well done)
* nice 4 strokes sound
* editor (mva dillo2 can kill it for sure)
* moving crowd, camera flashes, ...
* ...
... and yes, the 30fps is really enough on my tft too.
Some days ago, I did a test in dillo and tryed to ride on the track with the MCM2 bike, lol, it was terrible. Bam, cds burned and game uninstalled.

Everyone's doing what he wants, but the bad side of the story, it seems there is a little war inside the TD crew.
Some of you are doing constructive stuffs and some others are bashing MVA.
TD crew did an awesome job with MCM2 (without you guys, the game was dead early). All the usefull tools, the track conversions, ... perfect.
Some are complaining about the no MVA zone, the MCM2 zone is dead no ? If you say it's living with 25 people, ok we have the same amount of people in Gamespy + all the players who are using Hamachi. All what we see on the zone are chatters. If chatting and making rooms before playing is your goal, go to the MDX rooms and use Hamachi.

Well, peace all, start your engines and play the game you prefer.